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      As some of you may know, I started this forum back in 2010 in response to TCCA being sold to AutoGuide. I originally made this forum and called it the Taurus Club of Michigan (or something like that) purely as a joke, except a bunch of members from TCCA started joining. We eventually changed the name to the Taurus and Sable Owners Club, and we instantly started getting tons of signups from TCCA members in search of a new forum to join.  I only had my Taurus for about 6 months, and have moved on to the Mopar side. After 6 years, it seems weird for me to be president of TSOC. So as of today, I am 'stepping down' as President of the club and hereby hand the title of TSOC President to Sean T! I would say that most of you already know who he is, and I think he will do a great job as TSOC President. I will remain an admin of the forum and will continue to manage the server and forum software. Sean will be taking over all other responsibilities, including being in charge of the TSOC donations and money management. I will continue to pay for domain renewals, forum license renewals, and any other forum expenses, with Seans approval. Everybody please welcome Sean as the new President! Click here to view the full thread. ->
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Project Whitetrash 2

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Yea. Not quite sure where this would fit in.

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Yea. Not quite sure where this would fit in.

That thing fits wherever you want to put it... :ph34r:

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Eh, too much?

See what Sharp leather does to a thread?

Anyways, I like the black spear on the back of the SES. Very different... it grows on ya. The whole car as a matter of fact is that way. I love the interior. I am jealous of your stable of bulls.

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I think I found the culprit to the braking issue. Was replacing the struts again and found some play in the right side lower control arm. In the process of replacing it now. We'll see......

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You have a true love for the Taurus platform, that's for sure! Wish I had your mechanical knowledge!

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You have a true love for the Taurus platform, that's for sure! Wish I had your mechanical knowledge!

These are great cars. You can make em ride soft and cushy, or you can make em take turns like a road course racer. This one is a little soft because I did not upgrade the front or rear swaybar- all factory stuff. ABS and traction control was left alone. The major upgrade from the get go was taking a 200,000 mile AX4S Vulcan that looked like it never had anything ever replaced, ever- and building a safe and reliable AX4N Vulcan. This car would have been a sewage pipe in China by now otherwise.

And by the way, that control arm was shot.

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I had a spare off a 2003 subframe. Took Whitetrash II for a test drive and I can say, it's fixed!!! I took some ending pictures. I will still be upgrading stuff as needed. But the full blown project is done. As most of you have seen, I used many parts that were already on hand from Whitetrash I, so I knew they were good. The drivetrain came from a car that was drivable and I tested somewhat before tearing apart.

Pics from today.

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Sweet four wheel disc brakes. Will keep updating as things happen.

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The look of the 3-4 hybrid is growing on me...nice!

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Agreed. :D

Your garage is like... some kind of strange mad scientist's laboratory. One where random parts go in one side, and FrankenBulls roll out the other side. :ph34r:

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Stop this please! i beg you! your making me want to transplant my SHO's stuff into a G4 body, and add a G3 front clip!!

hmmm...

(begins searching taurus Shells)

$had3 :ford::merc::Shady_J:

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And the insurance company will think 'it's just a 200? Taurus, nothing super high output about that!'. Hehe.

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And the insurance company will think 'it's just a 200? Taurus, nothing super high output about that!'. Hehe.

Do you guys sell Stripped shells of bulls? an 02 would be tits!

$had3 :ford::merc::Shady_J:

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Negotiatory.

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Well. There technically is a way. A piece at a time. :)

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Like, a taurus one of these:

except, no dash, seats, or airbags. no wires or brake lines or fuel system either. completely strip chassis.

leave on the raw doors, trunklid, rear bumper, and taillights. thats all ill need. sunroof would be nice too

i could do things with that... very fascinating things...

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$had3 :ford::merc::Shady_J:

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Okay, riddle me this? Somethings going on. I have one remote fob that locks and unlocks both WT2 and my '99 Sable at the same time. I didn't program them at the same time. I thought this was impossible. I know how to reprogram a new code but I'm not sure I want to yet.

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Okay, riddle me this? Somethings going on. I have one remote fob that locks and unlocks both WT2 and my '99 Sable at the same time. I didn't program them at the same time. I thought this was impossible. I know how to reprogram a new code but I'm not sure I want to yet.

Not uncommon. The fob has a security number. The car learns that number. So more than one car can learn the same fob.

So the take car you DO NOT to want to talk to the fob and clear the memory.

I had 3 fobs for one Sable and one for the other Sable. I decided to change one of them so both had 2 fobs. OK but the transferred fob now did both cars.

Had to relearn the donor car to it's fobs.

-chart-

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I did the same thing with my bull and Mustang, also the Escort and an Exploder

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So. If I had five '98 and up Fords side by side, one person in each Ford turns the switch on-to-off 8 times, I hit lock on one remote and all five will be programed on the same fob? Sounds like a great prank.

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So. If I had five '98 and up Fords side by side, one person in each Ford turns the switch on-to-off 8 times, I hit lock on one remote and all five will be programed on the same fob? Sounds like a great prank.

Or program them one at a time, i.e. dealer prep... :creeper:

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Or program them one at a time, i.e. dealer prep... :creeper:

And the award for most appropriate use of Devin's Creeperface goes to... :P

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Or program them one at a time, i.e. dealer prep... :creeper:

All i can think of

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Not sure if my explanation will clear things up or not double-negative. Assume two remotes (fobs) for each car, one a Taurus, the other a Focus (my two wagons). Both fobs unlock each car (perfectly normal). I wanted to carry just one fob, so I reprogrammed the Taurus: key on-off-on-off... seven/eight times; door locks cycled; pressed a button on each of the original two Taurus fobs and also on one of the Focus fobs. I now have two fobs that are purely Taurus, two that are still Focus with one of these (mine) also able to unlock the Taurus. Does that make sense? All remotes for a specific vehicle must be programmed at the same time, and I think there is a limit as to how many can be learned by that vehicle. This however would be a good way for a dealership to ensure every vehicle is locked at night, just program one additional remote when the vehicle is prepped.

My next task is to cut a PAT key - one side Taurus, the other Focus. Then program each car to accept that PAT key. I should be able to carry one key, one fob, unlock, start and run both cars. I did this back in the mid-eighties with an Escort and an Aerostar. The most interesting thing was the tumblers in one or the other were inverted. I had filed a "V" notch so I could feel the van key (V-notch up started the Aerostar). Interestingly enough, the exact same configuration started the Escort.

With today's PAT keys, this should work as well. But this modification is for later application. Speaking of PAT keys, I was told somewhere, you can place a PAT key on or near the ECU and use just a plain key to start the vehicle. Is this true?

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Not sure if my explanation will clear things up or not double-negative. Assume two remotes (fobs) for each car, one a Taurus, the other a Focus (my two wagons). Both fobs unlock each car (perfectly normal). I wanted to carry just one fob, so I reprogrammed the Taurus: key on-off-on-off... seven/eight times; door locks cycled; pressed a button on each of the original two Taurus fobs and also on one of the Focus fobs. I now have two fobs that are purely Taurus, two that are still Focus with one of these (mine) also able to unlock the Taurus. Does that make sense? All remotes for a specific vehicle must be programmed at the same time, and I think there is a limit as to how many can be learned by that vehicle. This however would be a good way for a dealership to ensure every vehicle is locked at night, just program one additional remote when the vehicle is prepped.

My next task is to cut a PAT key - one side Taurus, the other Focus. Then program each car to accept that PAT key. I should be able to carry one key, one fob, unlock, start and run both cars. I did this back in the mid-eighties with an Escort and an Aerostar. The most interesting thing was the tumblers in one or the other were inverted. I had filed a "V" notch so I could feel the van key (V-notch up started the Aerostar). Interestingly enough, the exact same configuration started the Escort.

With today's PAT keys, this should work as well. But this modification is for later application. Speaking of PAT keys, I was told somewhere, you can place a PAT key on or near the ECU and use just a plain key to start the vehicle. Is this true?

According to the owner's guide, if you have 2 keys you can program a 3rd. It like the fob, the key has a unique code and the car will learn that key as a 3rd key.

You must have 2 working keys to make a new one. If you have only one, you are on the trip to the dealer for $$. Been there, done that.

I have 3 keys for the Lin, and the '01 but not for the '03. Might be a good idea to get a third while I still have 2.

Somebody looses/misplaces keys.

And my daughter found a key and fob about a year after loosing it. In a coat pocket packed for moving.

Went through the washer and dryer and still works.

Spare key in the glove box for the Lin and '01.

-chart-

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You can remove the one screw that holds the 'ring' around the ignition switch and move it under the dash (like next to the OBDII port). Then velcro the PATS key to the ring. This will allow you to add any key / tumbler you want to the column. If you don't want the car to start, reach under the dash and pull the key off. Just remember to match the exterior locks. Done this.

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Lol this theme seems very familiar. (g2 SHO) you do quick work, my projects take me MUCH longer.

Looking through some old pics. Since you brought it up. My old '92 SHO before this forum kicked in.

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